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10-03-2013, 11:28 AM

Keith, Matlock and Wade Crane were the best with the big ball but I can name 20 more that on any given day had a chance to win ! Keiths style and his great offensive skills would make your arm get a little tight lmao !!!! I seen it !


  
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I have to say your story has been verified to me many times!
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Thumbs up I have to say your story has been verified to me many times! - 10-03-2013, 12:06 PM

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Well, I woke up today, and the first thing I read was David Matlock versus Keith McCready. Whoever that guy is continuing to drag my name in posts with David must be a pretty good friend of David's, but he doesn't know all the facts or have all the facts.

Just for your information, first of all, I have all the respect for David. I would never say anything to hurt his feelings or rag on his game -- in other words, take it in the mud.

For you to say I couldn't beat David and never did beat David is absurd. The last time me and David played, it was a 10-ahead set in Richmond, Kentucky, at The Maverick Club. We played a 10-ahead set. It lasted about 50 minutes to an hour, me winning.

Second of all, David's 4-1/2-by-9 play was not nearly as strong as his bar table play. For you to say that I couldn't beat him playing 9-ball on a big table or 10-ball or one-pocket, I just wish that you would have been there when I had some real money and was playing all the time. I would have put you back on your back porch, right where you belong, reading a book.

The time that I did play David in Texas was in Dallas. I was getting staked by Weldon Rogers and Will Willingham. We didn't pick the location. It was in a guy's house with a buzzer. Every time David broke the balls, 3 and 4 balls would fly in, and every time I broke them, I wouldn't make a ball. There was something funny going on. Come to find out later, Sonny Spring, the guy's house that we played at, told me all about the buzzer. I played him after that, was chomping at the bit to play on neutral equipment, and I finally got my chance and I dusted him off. And then we played one more time after that, and that was at The Maverick Club.

There's nothing wrong with being friends with somebody, and I get it. I guess just like the way Bobby is with me, but Bobby knows what time of day it is. He witnessed a lot of my beatings on a lot of people. They shipped bar table players in from all over, and I shipped them, out one by one, busted and broke. I was giving everybody back then the 7-ball and the 8-ball. With the big cueball, they wouldn't play me. They had to go to the little cueball on the bar tables to even have a chance.

Back in the '70s, there was a Mexican by the name of Canella, who everybody said was the best bar table player in Mexico. I never really got to see how good he was because he never shot. I beat him two sets so fast, 10-aheads, that it would make you swim. He didn't ask me for weight because he didn't want to lose getting weight. Pride, I guess.

I was playing Morro Paez, giving him the 7 on a 4-by-8 with a big cueball, Ernesto Dominguez the 7-ball. This was all on a bar table with a big cueball, and they had to switch the big cueball to the little cueball. There used to be a bar called Nutty Nero's. That's where everybody would come after hours and play for days. They all checked up short. Kim Davenport, I was giving him the 7-ball on a big table. I would win some, lose some. We had some pretty good battles ourselves. None of these players would ever play me even.

I sort of wish that we could go back in time, but we can't. I'm 57 now, just about, not in combat like I used to be. But if you think in your right mind that I was afraid of David playing on any table, you're crazy. I've seen this Clint guy rambling on, on this website, trying to belittle me or put me down, and I don't know why.

I won't post any more about this. I consider David my friend, not my enemy. I hope David is doing well, and I know he is.

Just as an FYI, the three toughest players I ever played on a bar table were Boston Joey and Vernon Elliott and David Matlock -- in that order.

Hey there, Keith, I have to say your story has been verified to me many times!

I ran around on the road (betting high) with several of the players that was around LA Keith back in those days. Weldon Rogers and Omaha John were both champions on the "BarBox" and agreed that Keith was unbeatable on the bar table.....of course there were many players that had that "high speed," however, Keith seemed to always be in "Dead Heat" on the "Bar Rag".

I'm not taking anything away from David Matlock, he was a killer on the "small track"......he ran an "8 Pack" on me for the cash, and I managed to come back and win, but would not want to play him "day in and day out" for a living...that's for sure!


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The best players I watched play during the 70's and 80's on a barbox was,
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Keith McCready
Buddy Hall
CJ Wiley
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Eugene Browning
Allen Hopkins
Scotty Townsend
Reid Pierce
David Matlock
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10-03-2013, 12:54 PM

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The OP brings this topic up every year or so. If you would like to read more posts by the OP about Dave Matlock, here's a few threads for your perusal:

Matlock is tired of all the lies

Keith would have crushed them.

How good was Dave Matlock?

Keith vs. Matlock on a barbox

Keith McCready

Best bartable player with the big rock

Who is the best barbox table player in the USA?

And I'm sure there's a few more I could add to the group.



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10-03-2013, 01:25 PM

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Ok what most people don't know is Keith is the greatest combination shooter of all times playing 9 ball ! "jus sayin"
I believe this is very true! Keith is a deadly combination shooter.
  
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Exactly I was in with Keith one time, he was giving an okay player the 6 and last 4 on a real tight shimmed Gandy. Keith is on the hill and has this really off angle combo on the 9. He walks around and hands me his cigarette. He says, "Here, hold this, IT'S OVER!" He bends down and takes one stroke and fires it in the center of the hole. I laughed my a** off...
  
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10-03-2013, 02:41 PM

Yeah CJ you had someone breaking for you. That's like bringing your big brother to a fight. Do it yourself or not at all. Keith & Jam, Rusty C and I can put Matlock in the box right now to settle all this. Keith you and David are about the same age. Let's stop the woofin.
  
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David was one of the best barbox players. In the late 80's David told Archer he had the 7 ball if he would come to Oklahoma . Johnny was already winning tournaments everywhere and beating most gambling. This happened at a tournament in Aniston,AL where CJ beat David with Billy Johnson breaking for him. I also know Keith was a top barbox player with a very big heart. There would be no stealing going on when/if they played each other in their prime. I know David had a open invitation for anyone that wanted to play a 10,000 set at one time. I had heard that Keith was one of the few to play David even on a barbox. I once watched Paul Turner play perfect pool on a barbox all night before. I had a good seat on the receiving end of him putting 5's and 6's together. Eugene Browning once ran 9 on me in Birmingham... Allen Hopkins was the first person I had ever seen beat the ghost with no ball in hand on a barbox. I have watched Brian Ashley play perfect barbox pool all night. The point is, there were many top barbox players that were unbeatable at times.
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10-03-2013, 02:52 PM

TAR match!! I would buy. but make them bet some of their own money just to make it more interesting!
  
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Yeah CJ you had someone breaking for you. That's like bringing your big brother to a fight. Do it yourself or not at all. Keith & Jam, Rusty C and I can put Matlock in the box right now to settle all this. Keith you and David are about the same age. Let's stop the woofin.
Nobody is WOOFING but you, Keith came on here and stated the truth and others have chimed in.

Like one poster had said, alot of pool players played great on the bar box, but not all can play that speed on the 9 footers, as it seems your Horse is one of them!

So just Maybe KM mite be willing to play some 1 pocket and 9 ball on the 9 ft, as you already posted That KM cant win!
  
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I've seen Keith plat 1 pocket in Vegas. Plays good but I've also seen Dave. I like David
  
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In match play I've beaten 5 of the above, one got lucky and another flat Beat me, the rest we just didn't ever play....
When I saw the list I was wondering how you would fare against those players. I've played several of them but my record is, well, a bagel.


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10-03-2013, 03:19 PM

Ohh and this David can't play on the 9 foot. I remember when he beat Buddy Hall two sets. One on big table and one on the bar table. Additionally, wasn't he one the top American finishers in the IPT??
  
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